viernes, septiembre 01, 2006

Piñata N.21: El Alarmista Verde

Título: Consecuencias del cambio climático en el Valle del Chuquiago
Música: The Eraser, Thom Yorke



Desde que se puso de moda esto de preocuparse por el medio ambiente, siempre me que veía los estudios, la predicciones apocalípticas y los artículos alarmistas y moralistas prestaba especial atención a las consecuencias que eso podría tener para mí en mi ciudad. Pero nunca encontré nada, ni huracanes, ni niveles del mar que aumenten hasta inundar mi casa, ni sequías, ni terremotos ni extraterrestres ni nada. En La Paz no iba a pasar nada grave... hasta hace unos días.

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Suena de lo más alarmista, yo sé, pero no hace falta ser brujo para ver que es muy probable que esto ocurra en un futuro cercano, y tampoco hace falta ser brujo para saber que conociéndonos, no empezaremos a hacer nada al respecto hasta dentro de 16 años, seguramente habrán bloqueos y muertos y referéndums y alcaldes y prefectos derrocados... todo eso porque los países ricos nos destruyeron el planeta, obviamente no será nuestra culpa el no haber previsto nada al respecto

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At 1.9.06, Blogger CandiaMan® said...

Ok, eso si va a ser LA GUERRA DEL AGUA, ya algunos artículos del national geographic decian que el próximo milenio volcaria su atención a recursos como el agua y que este polarizaria las relaciones de poder como actualmente sucede con los hidrocarburos.

Ojala que los millonsitos que nos dejen los brutos negocios gasiferos que estamos haciendo y que vamos a hacer, nos sirvan para importar agua en 16 años y si no alcanza, lo que nos sobró por el ahorro en el ATPDEA puede servir para completar la suma deseada, y si nada de eso sirve Evo I puede hablar con el hermano Chavez para que nos regalen aguita a traves del gasoducto del sur que se puede rebautizar como acueducto del sur, dado el cambio de rubro, jajajajajajaja

 
At 1.9.06, Anonymous Anónimo said...

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At 4.9.06, Blogger Sakura said...

Lamento haber llegado un poco atrasa a la anterior piñata, pero tenía que poner mi comentario.... jejeje

Con respecto a este... pues... lastimosamente es verdad, por el momento una de las fuentes y en realidad la principal de dotación de agua es el Chacaltaya, y hasta que se gestionen proyectos estaremos ya años después del límite de la reserva (para variar, atrasados!! jajaja)

Creo que mucho palo esta piñata no ha de recibir, sólo será una confirmación publicada de lo que todos ya sabemos

 
At 4.9.06, Anonymous Anónimo said...

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Cuando dices q nadie se va salvar...Exagèras, hasta en el Apocalipsis hay gente q se salva :) Todo es cuestión de dinero.
Si quieres verlo desde un punto de vista, filantrópicamente siempre se pueden buscar soluciones...
Si no me olvide por completo de La Paz, ella tiene un rió q apesta a los mil infiernos. Porq no resucitarlo?
No te conozco, pero a veces me sorprendes. Como te puede importar algo, solo cuando te afecta en corto tiempo y directamente??? Despues dicen q ya gente q se pierde en el racionalismo??? Ummm
Respecto al tren...Una encuesta por Internet, no quiere decir absolutamente nada! No es nada significativo! Cuantos pacenos tienen acceso a internet? En el post del tren, todos buscan soluciones a problemas q no existen. Y dicen ser racionales!
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At 4.9.06, Blogger fidelio said...

Lo peor de todo, es que The Eraser es la primera señal de que Radiohead se puede separar!! No por favor antes de verlos en vivo!

Sobre el tema, el articulo es bastante bueno como bien dices. Creo que es una buena señal de prevencion para el futuro, de tener algun plan de contingencia.

Es un poco alarmista, pero tambien tiene un toque de proyeccion, ya que no solo piensas en el agua, sino que por darte un ejemplo... en Argentina y en Chile estan comenzando a crear programas de energia nuclear, basicamente por dos cosas:

- alto precio del petroleo (70 dolares el barril, hace 3 años valia la mitad)

- inestabilidad politica en "el" proveedor

Por lo tanto mira que curioso que ya salgan con ideas para los proximos 20 años.
Seria interesante hacer esto no solo con La Paz, sino con Bolivia entera, y no solo con el agua sino con las demas cosas.

 
At 5.9.06, Blogger Sebastián Sánchez Villalpando said...

A mí lo que me más me hizo pensar al leer el artículo, es que andamos preocupándonos por el tráfico, por el tren, por los comerciantes... en fin, caemos en un comportamiento humano, demasiado humano, de darle importancia a cosas que en el fondo no tienen ninguna, y no prestar atención a las cosas que son de verdad importantes.

Anónimo: eres anónimA en realidad, cierto?

Flor: A veces tienes argumentos muy bien encontrados, y otras veces tus razonamientos carecen de cualquier estructura, es una mezcla bastante interesante, por pura curiosidad y sin afán de ofender ni mucho menos, qué edad tienes?

Fidelio: La mentalidad previsora que pareces haber descubierto en Chile ya existía desde los Egipcios hace 5000 años, sólo que aquí por problemas de superposiciones evolutivas a nosotros se nos olvidaron. La gente que maneja el mundo ya tiene los 50 próximos años planeados, sólo queda a ajustar tornillos según los imprevistos.

 
At 6.9.06, Blogger CandiaMan® said...

y al final que hacemos los bolivians? saltar del barco mientras se puede... asi que dentro de 15 años se reeditará la cantaleta del "país sin oportunidades" y zas oooootro exodo masivo de los bolivianos que falten por irse. y listo ghost town Bolivia.

 
At 7.9.06, Blogger [i] said...

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At 7.9.06, Blogger Sebastián Sánchez Villalpando said...

qué tiene de xenófobo mi comentario pues? no será mas bien una extrema susceptibilidad tuya?

 
At 7.9.06, Blogger [i] said...

Plenamente de acuerdo con lo que dices... y podríamos apostar a que será así... con bloqueos y derrocamientos incluidos pero al final sin sluciones claras. Pero francamente no entiendo para nada tu comentario sobre la mentalidad previsora de los chilenos y los egipcios, porque nadie dice que sean los mejores o los peores, solo es un comentario que saca a relucir que nuestros vecinos están apurando medidas para no tener que depender del gas boliviano y que al final cuando encuentren alternativas energéticas nos vamos a quedar sentados sobre nuestro gas y ningún incauto a quien vendérselo, eso también está cantado, pero no entiendo tu comentario que pareceriera cargado de ironía,
no se si tu problema son los chilenos, y que se los mencione o el que fidelio viva en chile, o si es el hecho de estar viviendo fuera del país por n-razones que no vienen al caso y que obviamente no te competen. No es que uno quiera que Bolivia sea como Chile, como España, como Francia, como Irán, o como cualquier otro país, pero creo que si uno tiene dos ojos y mas de dos neuronas, lo lógico es observar y pensar, y eso no te hace ni más boliviano ni menos boliviano, o si? y el hecho de estar ahora viviendo fuera tampoco.

 
At 7.9.06, Blogger [i] said...

perdón... arregle mi comentario porque habia cosas que no dije y si pensé decirlas. ahi va de nuevo.

 
At 7.9.06, Blogger Sebastián Sánchez Villalpando said...

Ah ok, entonces si es solamente super susceptibilidad tuya. No te lo tomes personal, el palazo era para Fidelio, no para vos. Simplemente le recuerdo a Fidelio que no está descubriendo la pólvora como su solemne comentario nos hacer pensar. Ya pues! no necesitas justificarte ni aquí ni en ningún lado por vivir en España. Ojalá todos fueran libres de vivir donde más les venga en gana. Pero no nos salgamos del tema...
Saludos

 
At 7.9.06, Blogger fidelio said...

sabes que es lo mas divertido sebastian, que lo unico "que parece que descubierto en Chile" es que los bolivianos precisamente hacemos esto.
Tenemos en nuestras manos la capacidad de cambiar nuestra sociedad, pero la "susceptibilidad", "los solemnes comentarios", y quien sabe que otras cosas, terminan haciendo que una buena idea, como tu piñata, sea al final simplemente un concurso de descalificaciones personales.

No te conozco. Pero tu pareces saber bien incluso lo que vine a aprender aqui. Mira que interesante.

"Pero no nos salgamos del tema".

Probalmente no fuiste al circo de niño, o la gondola te dejo por llegar tarde, pero creo que tus problemas de resentimiento social podrian servir para otro blog. Te sugiero que se llame "tengo la razon pero todavia nadie se ha dado cuenta".

Mucha suerte en la vida.

 
At 8.9.06, Blogger [i] said...

Sebastian tu blog es interesante, tus piñatas despiertan temas´que dan mucho juego para hablar y lanzar palazos y si suelo entrar a tu blog es precisamente porque me parece interesante lo que escribes. Pero ya desde hace algun tiempo cuando algunos bloggers comentamos algo no haces mas que dar palazos que no tienen nada que ver con el tema y cuya intencion pareciera el descalificar por el puro descalificar. Si tu eres el poseedor de la unica verdad entonces para que permitir comments? no se supone que la idea era justamente terminar con ideas nuevas? Asi perderas muchos lectores.

 
At 8.9.06, Blogger Sebastián Sánchez Villalpando said...

wujúuu palazos por todo lado, que vengan! de eso se trata. Si bien no va al tema me parece por lo menos justo responderlos ¿no?

Fidelio: No me hagas decir cosas que no he dicho, no me interesa descalificarte, lo único que descalifico son comentarios errados, no te lo tomes personal porque como bien dices, no nos conocemos. No he entiendo dónde ves en mí un resentimiento social, y sinceramente me interesaría, por ahí tienes razón. Gracias por los buenos deseos pero no creo en la suerte, y si existe no la necesito. Saludos.

Ergoth, Ya que te unes a Fidelio en el llamado, te respondo de igual forma: no me interesa descalificarte, lo único que descalifico son comentarios que me parezcan errados. Hay muchos comentarios que he respetado y resaltado y que han replanteado el tema, y eso se ha hecho claro. No me interesan las batallas del Ego y menos los incautos que caigan en el cuarto de las piñatas y estén dispuestos agarrar el garrote pero no a recibir el palazo. Saludos.

 
At 8.9.06, Anonymous BLUME said...

Dices q me falta estructurar ? Supongo q es falta de tiempo, además a veces creo q hay cosas bastante evidentes. No se q te parezca, infantil en mi ultimo post o q te pareció tan deslumbrante para pedirme q te ilumine.
Todo tiene una explicación, pero no es la edad. Si quieres saberlo, solo debes preguntar.

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jajajajaja, no entiendo cuál es su afán de ustedes de echarse palos en términos personales por algo que no viene al caso.

Todos sabemos que la postergación de proyectos importantes para el crecimiento de ciertas regiones dependen de maquinaciones politiqueras, no políticas, y como dice el amigo Sebastián la planificación de los próximos 50 años está ya dibujada por entes invisibles a primera vista. O sino por qué creen que proyectos como exploración y explotación de gas en el norte de La Paz se da a conocer ahora, cuando esto ya fue descubierto 25 años atrás, incluso si no me equivo mucho más, y por gobiernos e intereses unilaterales no se lo dió a conocer.

 
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